LoveTouch
Loving touch, sensual and sexual is a fundamental need of all humans.
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Background of Dave in Phoenix

For decades I've enjoyed learning, experiencing and sharing "LoveTouch intimacy, sensuality and sexuality ideas. While I totally support wild great sex, to me the caring "LoveTouch" intimacy skills are just as important for both my own enjoyment and that of most of the women I've me

Early Years
In the mid 1980's Dave attended many Stan Dale "Sex, Love and Intimacy" workshops in California, where he learned and experienced the group dynamics of true love, intimacy and fulfilling sexuality far beyond just thrusting intercourse. While these groups were often closer to New Age type beliefs, Dave saw more Christlike love than what he had ever experienced in the traditional church. Too often the church is too busy reaching UP to God to reach OUT to each other. There are more people in the world starving for love and affection than starving for food, but when it comes to meaningful intimate interaction, the church is too often "God's Frozen People."  While the workshops are a bit too "new age spirtual" for my tastes, it is still very powerful especially for people working on various sexual issues.

In Dave's childhood he was very shy and still is in some ways. He was scared of women and didn't date till he was a senior in college. He never went to a dance. Gradually he became more outgoing and married, but many decades ago, before his interest in exploring sexuality beliefs, after being resingled, he was insecure and ed. Many women reacted negatively to him, sensing neediness and insecurity. But slowly, over time, after experiencing the Stan Dale workshops, some sex surrogacy training, Esalen massage training and lots of G-spot massage experience, he found women strangely attracted to him...especially once they started to experience his touch. For many year he thought all men were naturally, wonderfully intimate and he was just far behind. But so many women started telling him that they had seldom experienced men with good touch and intimacy skills that Dave began to wonder why. He concluded that most men want to be intimate but haven't learned how.

Co-Founder Liberated Christians in 1988
Promoting Positive Intimacy and Sexuality Including Responsible Nonmonogamy or Polyamory as a legitimate CHOICE for Christians and others / Exposing false traditions of sexual repression that have no biblical basis.  Promoting Intimacy & Other-Centered, Loving Sexuality 

Dave comes from a very conservative church background. 30 years ago he was very active in evangelical, conservative ministries, including Bible Study Fellowship, Christian Business Men's Committee, Billy Graham Crusades, as well as serving as deacon in a conservative Presbyterian Church in Minneapolis. For many years he believed in the inerrant word of God--that "God says it and that settles it."

But then he met a couple where both husband and wife were going to Lutheran Theological Seminary to be Lutheran ministers. They started pointing out how in Hebrew and Greek there were obvious contradictions in scripture and some things he thought were crystal clear were quite foggy. Being interested in supporting his conservative beliefs concerning sexuality, Dave set out to do more research to prove his position correct that sex was wrong unless you were married and then only with your wife.

He read many books by theologians and experts in Greek and Hebrew and slowly, over time, found the evidence was overwhelming that he had been very wrong in his traditional beliefs. Dave became very upset that the church would mistranslate and misapply biblical truths to promote an agenda which was not based on the original biblical texts.

In the Spring of 1995 the Phoenix paper New Times featured us on its front page. While their article was humorous and somewhat sensational, it did tell our story and some couples contacted us. The headline of the article was "Onward Christian Swingers - Looking for God in all the wrong places? - Try this Sunday meeting!". My favorite line from the article was: "The group's introductory literature may be the only publication on Earth where you'll find the phrases 'Old Testament' and 'vibrating nipple clamps' on the same page."

Led Liberated Christians Phoenix Couples Fellowship Group which was very active from 1995 through 1997. Over 350 people attended the required 3-hour intro, and most continued for a series of meaningful workshops and great parties.

Speaker at many Lifestyles National Swingers Convention and other national swing conventions in the 1990's "Liberated Christians not a Biblical Conflict including related video and audio tapes still being distributed by the Lifestyles organization.

Esalen Massage - Professionally trained 1980s and have led many workshops and massage rooms at swing conventions. See Esalen Massage It's So Nice To Be Kneaded

LC Experiences showing the need for more intimacy which has been one of our prime goals:
One example of men's lack of awareness is the experience Dave had a few years ago with a couple. He was in bed with the wife. The husband is observing, really wanting to learn to be more intimate. All of a sudden the wife says "See honey, foreplay is more than ready.... brace." He laughed and agreed he had never learned intimacy, but wanted to.

Another example was when a couple had him do Esalen massage on the woman. After a while the man came upstairs to see how they were doing and got all turned on seeing his nude girlfriend on the table. He jumped in wanting to poke her and be sexual with her. As he was poking and groping her body parts, he asked how things were going. She replied "Great until you came up." Sometimes honest communications can be embarrassing, but he did get the message that at that time she wanted the intimacy of massage and not poking and groping.

On the other hand, not everyone is going to become interested in real intimacy. Being intimate is much more threatening and difficult for many than just having recreational sex with strangers. But for Dave, he doesn't enjoy sex without physical intimacy, but can often enjoy intimacy even without sex.

Founder:
Promoting Intimacy and Positive, Healthy, Consenting Adult Sexuality
Created By Dave in Phoenix  Opened December 7, 1997

My interest in private consenting adult sexwork was the result of how to help the zillions of single men that we could  not accommodate in the Liberated Christians Couples group since couples prefer to relate to other couples and there were very few single women interested unless already in a relationship - so a couple.

For many years, I've done intimacy and sexuality counseling related to Liberated Christians. From the huge response we get at Liberated Christians, it is clear that our culture is full of tease and titillation but many men in particular, don't have a clue when it comes to physical intimacy skills and what is sexually fulfilling to most women. Sorry guys. There are wonderfully intimate men who are exceptions of course.

I also hear from a vast number of single men and women who are very sexually frustrated. I can relate to their situation since although I teach and lead mostly couples, I don't have my own relationship. Sex work could provide companionship, intimacy and sexual fulfillment for both men and women if done with the right attitude by sex workers with good attitudes and warm personalities viewing clients as real people, not just ATM machines for money. Likewise sex workers should be viewed with dignity and respect, and not as bodies parts to be grope and poked.

I have had zillions of wonderful intimacy experiences with great sexworkers.   My main interest hasn't been escorts but full contact lap dances with great wholesome mutually enjoyed intimacy interactions first in Phoenix (see       and then after 1999 when the law changed in Canada, especially Toronto (see http://www.sexworktoronto.com ) I enjoy great response from so many dancers which has motivated me to share ideas with others.  Also the great nude-reverse massage parlors/adult body rubs in Toronto which I extensively report on at http://www.sexworktoronto.com.  My best escort experiences are discussed at http://www.sexworkvictoria.com

Canada like in most of the world isn't ruled by morality laws like in the U.S. where those that know what is best for us, are so terrified of positive good touch sensuality and sexuality they have to make laws against it and police conduct entrapment stings to enforce.  This is virtually unknown in the rest of the world where private consenting adult sexwork is legal unlike in the U.S.   Studies have shown the more sexually repressed a culture is the more violent it tends to me - certainly the case in the U.S.  Of course health issues are more an excuse than a reality in professional sexwork, just like swinging.  Both activities are very low risk compared to meeting a women at a bar for example.   Those that are sexually mature and informed are far more likely to be careful about their sexual health.

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